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Post by MKCS on Dec 7, 2019 16:31:17 GMT -8
I love Scott Hudson but he and Joe Galli are too similar and unfortunately Hudson isn't really relevant anymore. Stu Bennett is. That is in your opinion about Galli and Hudson but Stu Bennett is relevant?!? Yeah of course he is. He was in WWE for 6 years and is still sort of fresh off WWE TV. During that time he was a 5 time WWE Intercontinental Champion and was pretty high up the card. I think many people underestimate just how big that WWE branding is. It's seen in 100+ countries and if you even have a little bit of a run in WWE (2-3 years) you are at the very least remembered. 5 time IC Champion I'd say Barrett still has at least a few more years of relevancy.
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Post by Stunning Steve Thermo on Dec 7, 2019 18:21:45 GMT -8
That is in your opinion about Galli and Hudson but Stu Bennett is relevant?!? Yeah of course he is. He was in WWE for 6 years and is still sort of fresh off WWE TV. During that time he was a 5 time WWE Intercontinental Champion and was pretty high up the card. I think many people underestimate just how big that WWE branding is. It's seen in 100+ countries and if you even have a little bit of a run in WWE (2-3 years) you are at the very least remembered. 5 time IC Champion I'd say Barrett still has at least a few more years of relevancy. So he was in the WWE for five years so what?!? What make him a good color commentator tell me!?
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Post by MKCS on Dec 7, 2019 19:16:02 GMT -8
Yeah of course he is. He was in WWE for 6 years and is still sort of fresh off WWE TV. During that time he was a 5 time WWE Intercontinental Champion and was pretty high up the card. I think many people underestimate just how big that WWE branding is. It's seen in 100+ countries and if you even have a little bit of a run in WWE (2-3 years) you are at the very least remembered. 5 time IC Champion I'd say Barrett still has at least a few more years of relevancy. So he was in the WWE for five years so what?!? What make him a good color commentator tell me!? Being in WWE makes him relevant. For example look at the NWA of old when guys like Rob Conway held the NWA World Heavyweight Title. They were never phenomenal performers but got the belt because they were relevant and got booked around America and even the world occasionally just because they were in the WWE. Bennett would have a fan base or at the very least people say "Oh yeah, I remember him!". He's been a colour commentator for a few years now including TV appearances and from what I've heard of him I think he does pretty alright. Hudson very well may be better as a colour commentator but Bennett's relevance gets him over the line.
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Post by WWLTD on Dec 8, 2019 22:49:26 GMT -8
While I'm never in favor of having someone on color who could, dare I say should, and may in the near future be an active wrestler, Bennett's "relevant" factor can't be overlooked or short changed. Not when (and it kills me a little inside to have to point this out) we live in a reality where to this very minute the most watched piece of NWA content created in the last thirty years is a match involving James f'n Ellsworth. Over 1.1 million views. Double that of the next closest runner up, the first episode of NWA Powerrr. But don't be surprised by the trolls claiming that NWA rolls on retreads from WWE. Or when he bolts for the bucks (pun intended) after the match with Aldis that you just know is coming within the next year.
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Post by Stunning Steve Thermo on Dec 12, 2019 19:03:26 GMT -8
So he was in the WWE for five years so what?!? What make him a good color commentator tell me!? Being in WWE makes him relevant. For example look at the NWA of old when guys like Rob Conway held the NWA World Heavyweight Title. They were never phenomenal performers but got the belt because they were relevant and got booked around America and even the world occasionally just because they were in the WWE. Bennett would have a fan base or at the very least people say "Oh yeah, I remember him!". He's been a colour commentator for a few years now including TV appearances and from what I've heard of him I think he does pretty alright. Hudson very well may be better as a colour commentator but Bennett's relevance gets him over the line. I don't know what show you saw him as a colour commentator but I just don't see it.
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Post by dkm on Dec 13, 2019 8:50:36 GMT -8
Being from WWE doesn't be definition make a person relevant (Ryback).
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Post by oldschoolcorino on Dec 13, 2019 14:07:22 GMT -8
Being from WWE doesn't be definition make a person relevant (Ryback). Agree. In fact, as someone that hasnt watched WWE for many years, i had no idea who he was or is until i googled him and have never seen him wrestle or heard him speak. Not relevant or irrelevant yet, just a blank slate.
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Post by MKCS on Dec 15, 2019 15:36:20 GMT -8
Being from WWE doesn't be definition make a person relevant (Ryback). Depends how they're used. Using your example a promoter local to me ran a show in 2017 when Ryback was fresh from WWE and drew 600-700 people to a small basketball arena. Hundreds turned up to the meet and greet, Ryback was interviewed on the local news, the local newspapers went mental talking about him, they got on every radio station in town. Easy 5000-6000 dollars worth of free advertising alone. They did a show the next night in a smaller venue and drew about 400 for that. They drew that initial 1000-1100 over the weekend simply because Ryback was relevant because of his WWE run. Anyway, Ryback beats their champion of 2 years and is their new champion, Rybackmania is running wild or so they thought, bring him back 9 months later to the same stadium he draws 300-400 people and they run the next night in a new area drawing only about 150-200. The promoter takes such a bath that he never brings Ryback again instead deciding to strip the belt off Ryback. They couldn't keep him relevant due to not knowing what they were doing so the hype wore off and the people didn't care as much. In my opinion it came down to bad booking. They had this massive star as their champion but never reminded anyone he was champion. When he did come back it wasn't off the back of a big highly anticipated story it was just "Oh Ryback is back and he's going to wrestle". He very quickly became "Just another guy" after those two initial shows. Meanwhile, I see some companies (Let me use the NWA as an example) who book really well and get lots out of lesser stars. They don't really have anyone on Ryback's level in terms of recent WWE Upper Midcard acts or guys who had main evented Pay Per Views but they get so much out of guys. Mr. Anderson for example is having his best run in a wrestling company since the early 2010's, they've helped make the RNR Express relevant again, Nick Aldis after leaving TNA struggled for relevancy but they've now made him a pretty big star in wrestling.
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Post by shawn on Dec 17, 2019 19:53:19 GMT -8
I think the Cornette storm has gone away. They found a good replacement. They had a good PPV and tv tapings. They are using RnR Express and Nikita Koloff for the history link.
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Post by dkm on Dec 18, 2019 8:35:23 GMT -8
We will see how things go. We will have to see where they are in a year.
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Post by MKCS on Dec 18, 2019 11:59:07 GMT -8
I didn't mind Stu Bennett. Admittedly I prefer Cornette but Cornette is probably top 5 free agent colour commentators currently running around whilst Bennett is likely still learning.
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Post by dkm on Dec 18, 2019 13:25:30 GMT -8
Cornette has retired from commentating. As he pointed out he doesn't go looking for jobs, people ask him for favors.
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Post by Jay Cal on Dec 23, 2019 10:32:27 GMT -8
I thought Bennet was terrific.
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Post by dkm on Dec 23, 2019 22:05:04 GMT -8
I wouldn't say terrific but he his good. I can't always understand him between his low octave and accent and my own hearing loss.
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Post by The Laughing Man on Jan 6, 2020 15:52:42 GMT -8
I enjoyed Cornette on NWA and MLW. It gives you that reminder of what I grew up watching. Bennet I think is doing a great job on commentary thus far. He was a commissioner for a bit overseas for a promotion and did some commentary there as well. I always thought he did great mic work in WWE
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