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Post by spacemountain on Jun 18, 2020 10:36:07 GMT -8
Following this episode: www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uXpXC6FyoWho's on your NWA Mount Rushmore? I'll introduce two rules, must be from the post 1948 NWA so no Frank Gotch etc; and secondly tag teams count as one place. Here's my choices: 1) Ric Flair. Synonymous with the NWA for the last 45 years, even when he's been with other promotions. Record breaking 10 time champion (depending on how you count it); the last travelling champion. 2) Lou Thesz. The greatest NWA champion of the 1940s-1960s and like Flair, synonymous with the belt. 3) Sam Muchnick. To exclude him would be wrong 4) The Rock n Roll Express. NWA tag team champions on and off between 1985 and 2019. Others like the Road Warriors may be more iconic, others may have held more belts like the Von Brauners but for me the Rock n Roll Express are more of an NWA team than any other. Over to you....
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Post by spacemountain on Jun 18, 2020 10:40:04 GMT -8
As a P.S. I really wanted to include Harley Race, but felt he didn't dominate an era the way Thesz and Flair did. Race's reigns were intersected by others who were as dominant as him like Jack Brisco, Terry Funk and Flair.
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Post by oldschoolcorino on Jun 18, 2020 12:10:09 GMT -8
Spacemountain you have a solid Mt Rushmore and cant dispute any of your picks. Flair and Thesz should be on everyones list, the other 2 are open for debate. Would be hard for me to leave Race off and maybe Adam Pearce representing the more recent past.
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Post by Jay Cal on Jul 5, 2020 11:43:34 GMT -8
The only point I will effort to make is that, had Dan Severn not won the NWA Worlds Heavyweight Championship and defend in the Octagon and showcase in the WWE, the NWA would have probably be dead. The fact of the matter is that Severn drove new blood into the NWA with new membership and new opportunities.
I'd also venture to guess that without Pearce, there would have been little to nothing for Billy Corgan to buy.
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Post by stanleyhetz on May 2, 2021 23:40:32 GMT -8
Following this episode: www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uXpXC6FyoWho's on your NWA Mount Rushmore? I'll introduce two rules, must be from the post 1948 NWA so no Frank Gotch etc; and secondly tag teams count as one place. Here's my choices: 1) Ric Flair. Synonymous with the NWA for the last 45 years, even when he's been with other promotions. Record breaking 10 time champion (depending on how you count it); the last travelling champion. 2) Lou Thesz. The greatest NWA champion of the 1940s-1960s and like Flair, synonymous with the belt. 3) Sam Muchnick. To exclude him would be wrong 4) The Rock n Roll Express. NWA tag team champions on and off between 1985 and 2019. Others like the Road Warriors may be more iconic, others may have held more belts like the Von Brauners but for me the Rock n Roll Express are more of an NWA team than any other. Over to you.... I can't put a tag team on my NWA Mount Rushmore, as mine would have to be all NWA World heavyweight champions: Ric Flair, Harley Race, Dan Severn, and Nick Aldis.
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Post by Fred Richards on May 3, 2021 14:45:38 GMT -8
I do not think Nick Aldis (as yet) merits inclusion on an NWA Mt. Rushmore. Surely, an NWA stalwart like Steve Corino does; Steve's brand-loyalty though many years cannot be denied.
Howard T. Brody resurrected the NWA. I know the incredible amount of time and energy Brody put into his work - - let's not forget that it was Brody who got the brand on then-WWWF television. To discount his rightful inclusion is somewhat a negligent omission.
Another NWA brand-loyalist is Jeff Jarrett. Until the notorious, braggadocio California Flim Flam Man helped sabotage the deal, Jarrett gave the NWA a major push via his TNA product - a push that Mr. Flim Flam and his "guiding light" irresponsibly squandered.
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Post by stanleyhetz on May 3, 2021 17:33:31 GMT -8
I do not think Nick Aldis (as yet) merits inclusion on an NWA Mt. Rushmore. Surely, an NWA stalwart like Steve Corino does; Steve's brand-loyalty though many years cannot be denied. Howard T. Brody resurrected the NWA. I know the incredible amount of time and energy Brody put into his work - - let's not forget that it was Brody who got the brand on then-WWWF television. To discount his rightful inclusion is somewhat a negligent omission. Another NWA brand-loyalist is Jeff Jarrett. Until the notorious, braggadocio California Flim Flam Man helped sabotage the deal, Jarrett gave the NWA a major push via his TNA product - a push that Mr. Flim Flam and his "guiding light" irresponsibly squandered. I totally get where you're coming from. Howard would definitely be included if my NWA Mount Rushmore would include people from behind the scenes because he did soooo much for the NWA as you pointed out. A few months ago I thought of who I would include if I was to put together a Mount Rushmore for the NWA (which, of course, I won't actually be doing), and the thought that I had would be to include NWA World heavyweight champions. Steve Corino is a legend. Heck, he just clicked "like" on a tweet that I posted yesterday in which I declared him one of the legends who have been NWA World heavyweight champions. Jeff Jarrett is another great. He and his father did a lot for the NWA with their connection to TNA. I'm not exactly thrilled with some of the TNA skits, but the exposure that they brought the NWA cannot be overstated. They did a hell of a lot for the NWA. The reason that I have already included Nick Aldis on my list is because of what he has already done for the NWA as NWA World heavyweight champion. a lot of people can look and see that he has defended the NWA World heavyweight title in a bunch of promotions in several countries around the world. That much is obvious, but the quality of his matches in those promotions have really impressed me. His title defense against Sam Adonis in Warrior Wrestling was extremely good. His title defense against Matt Cross in Next Generation Wrestling was incredible. His defense against James Storm in the 2 out of 3 falls match at NWA Into The Fire really impressed me. I have DVDs of those matches and others. The quality of Nick Aldis's title defenses really impress me, and he has so much chemistry with many of his challengers, making them look as if he is about to lose the title before he ends up winning the matches. His matches aren't carbon copies of each other either. He was doing commentary during a Ring Of Honor title match, and during that ROH title match, he kept mentioning that he is the "real" World champion. I just have to love all that. Then there was this moment which didn't get to materialize into anything yet (probably) because of the COVID crisis:
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