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Post by Fred Richards on Dec 8, 2021 1:14:56 GMT -8
Steve- truly, you are the Champion of lost causes.
Lonely job - - but made-to-order for you. (Hell, probably pays better than the Walmart gig, too)
Whoever you are (in reality - - you do know what "reality" means, don't you?), whatever your fantasies might be, it doesn't matter to anyone. So have a good time all by your lonesome self. Guess you're not hurting anybody unless they throw a net over you somewhere on Flatbush Avenue because you are running towards Graves End with your Championship Belt on screaming that you are - Undisputed!
Merry Christmas, Steve!
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Post by Jay Cal on Dec 8, 2021 12:20:55 GMT -8
Wow. That. Was. Well.
Hope you are both doing well. Merry Christmas to both of you...
And Fred, do you still have possession of the Pacific Premium Championship? For what it's worth, I always thought that was a beautiful championship.
When Bruce sold a bunch of the titles, I was always sad I never was able to get a shot at the old North American Championship. It isn't a beautiful belt, but just so rich with tradition, if it ever comes up for sale, I want to at least hear the price for it.
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Post by Fred Richards on Dec 8, 2021 12:54:58 GMT -8
Hi Jay,
I surrendered all NWA-related chattels when I sold my interests some years ago. Of course, I retain my personal memorabilia, emails, copies of contracts, pictures, etc.
I guess Steve and I went the distance! I am sure there is no ill will. Just some spirited back-and-forth.
Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones!!!!
Fred
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Post by Stunning Steve Thermo on Dec 8, 2021 17:20:14 GMT -8
Steve- truly, you are the Champion of lost causes. Lonely job - - but made-to-order for you. (Hell, probably pays better than the Walmart gig, too) Whoever you are (in reality - - you do know what "reality" means, don't you?), whatever your fantasies might be, it doesn't matter to anyone. So have a good time all by your lonesome self. Guess you're not hurting anybody unless they throw a net over you somewhere on Flatbush Avenue because you are running towards Graves End with your Championship Belt on screaming that you are - Undisputed! Merry Christmas, Steve! "Lost Causes", I don't get the point you were trying to make? What I wrote wasn't to you,Hell the stuff you write don't even makes sense to me. It seems to me you are deluded man that likes to bicker and I don't why you are the way you are but whatever. Really don't know you and don't want to anyway. It is what it is. Stay good Freddie Boom Boom Richards.Goodness whatever happened to Zeke anyway
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Post by Stunning Steve Thermo on Dec 8, 2021 17:26:43 GMT -8
Wow. That. Was. Well. Hope you are both doing well. Merry Christmas to both of you... And Fred, do you still have possession of the Pacific Premium Championship? For what it's worth, I always thought that was a beautiful championship. When Bruce sold a bunch of the titles, I was always sad I never was able to get a shot at the old North American Championship. It isn't a beautiful belt, but just so rich with tradition, if it ever comes up for sale, I want to at least hear the price for it. I have no problems with nobody. What I wrote is what I wrote to the people that knows me on this board as a die hard NWA supporter and that knows I like to play around saying what I write as the U.S. Heavyweight Champion. I don't run down the current owner or administration because to me this the best the NWA has been in Years.
Jay stay Cool. Richards.........Yeah merry Christmas to you too
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Post by Fred Richards on Dec 9, 2021 10:28:43 GMT -8
Stunning Steve Thermos wrote: "I don't run down the current owner or administration because to me this the best the NWA has been in Years." Can you supply a reason or reasons "this is the best NWA has been in Years" A comparison - - talent, shows, territories, mainstream press coverage, etc? Who knows, maybe we missed something! Thanks, Stunning Steve!
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Post by Stunning Steve Thermo on Dec 9, 2021 17:04:10 GMT -8
Stunning Steve Thermos wrote: "I don't run down the current owner or administration because to me this the best the NWA has been in Years." Can you supply a reason or reasons "this is the best NWA has been in Years" A comparison - - talent, shows, territories, mainstream press coverage, etc? Who knows, maybe we missed something! Thanks, Stunning Steve! See you just proved my point about you. You like to bicker and point things out that really have nothing to do with you. I wrote what I wrote is because I am a supporter of the NWA and obviously you are not. What is it that you want the NWA do? You look for the worst in things and everything. I don't understand you and your views
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Post by MKCS on Dec 9, 2021 19:10:13 GMT -8
Mum, Dad please stop fighting
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Post by Fred Richards on Dec 10, 2021 0:57:53 GMT -8
Steve,
What you "don't understand" is too voluminous to chronicle here. However, the essence is that people can disagree. They can passionately debate issues without getting ridiculous.
I look at today's NWA from a pure business perspective. I justify my opinion(s) with facts. Billy Corgan has done little to restore the NWA to a viable brand. Again, if you feel I've overlooked something - state your case with facts.
From another perspective - - not since Howard Brody and the late Dennis Corralluzzo appeared on WWE television, has the NWA had mainstream exposure. Jeff Jarrett tried but was cut down by the foolishness of some NWA members and hierarchy. Zero 1 tried and was confronted with the same stupidity.
More important, the "pausing operations" of ROH/Sinclair says something important.
Do I "want" the NWA to rise again - yes (as I've said numerous times on this board). Do I believe that will happen? No.
It really is that elementary.
I'm done going back-and-forth with you, Steve. Live your gimmick, call people "bitches" and do whatever else you choose in yet another failed effort to achieve prominence.
I harken to MKCS's wisdom. The foolishness ends now.
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Post by ZEKE on Dec 10, 2021 10:34:03 GMT -8
Steve- truly, you are the Champion of lost causes. Lonely job - - but made-to-order for you. (Hell, probably pays better than the Walmart gig, too) Whoever you are (in reality - - you do know what "reality" means, don't you?), whatever your fantasies might be, it doesn't matter to anyone. So have a good time all by your lonesome self. Guess you're not hurting anybody unless they throw a net over you somewhere on Flatbush Avenue because you are running towards Graves End with your Championship Belt on screaming that you are - Undisputed! Merry Christmas, Steve! "Lost Causes", I don't get the point you were trying to make? What I wrote wasn't to you,Hell the stuff you write don't even makes sense to me. It seems to me you are deluded man that likes to bicker and I don't why you are the way you are but whatever. Really don't know you and don't want to anyway. It is what it is. Stay good Freddie Boom Boom Richards.Goodness whatever happened to Zeke anyway Still here, just enjoying the show…
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Post by Stunning Steve Thermo on Dec 10, 2021 17:12:42 GMT -8
What Up Zeke How ya doing boy?
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Post by Stunning Steve Thermo on Dec 10, 2021 17:17:05 GMT -8
Steve, What you "don't understand" is too voluminous to chronicle here. However, the essence is that people can disagree. They can passionately debate issues without getting ridiculous. I look at today's NWA from a pure business perspective. I justify my opinion(s) with facts. Billy Corgan has done little to restore the NWA to a viable brand. Again, if you feel I've overlooked something - state your case with facts. From another perspective - - not since Howard Brody and the late Dennis Corralluzzo appeared on WWE television, has the NWA had mainstream exposure. Jeff Jarrett tried but was cut down by the foolishness of some NWA members and hierarchy. Zero 1 tried and was confronted with the same stupidity. More important, the "pausing operations" of ROH/Sinclair says something important. Do I "want" the NWA to rise again - yes (as I've said numerous times on this board). Do I believe that will happen? No. It really is that elementary. I'm done going back-and-forth with you, Steve. Live your gimmick, call people "bitches" and do whatever else you choose in yet another failed effort to achieve prominence. I harken to MKCS's wisdom. The foolishness ends now. Freddie You need to let the past go. What happened with you is over 20 plus years ago. It is funny you mad at me for calling people bitches but yet you keep on bitiching! You are a grumpy old man and I pray to the good lord above you can get this bitterness out of you heart. I don't what your deal with the NWA is but Like I said before it is what it is. MKCS I agree with you dude. Jay Cal Please lock this up.
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Post by ZEKE on Dec 10, 2021 17:27:03 GMT -8
What Up Zeke How ya doing boy? I’m well…. I see you still have that US belt…. Wanna trade it in for that nice shinny red leathered NWA National belt? LOL. J/K
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Post by Stunning Steve Thermo on Dec 10, 2021 19:00:59 GMT -8
Nah Kid Nah LOL
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Post by Fred Richards on Dec 11, 2021 4:18:58 GMT -8
Steve, What you "don't understand" is too voluminous to chronicle here. However, the essence is that people can disagree. They can passionately debate issues without getting ridiculous. I look at today's NWA from a pure business perspective. I justify my opinion(s) with facts. Billy Corgan has done little to restore the NWA to a viable brand. Again, if you feel I've overlooked something - state your case with facts. From another perspective - - not since Howard Brody and the late Dennis Corralluzzo appeared on WWE television, has the NWA had mainstream exposure. Jeff Jarrett tried but was cut down by the foolishness of some NWA members and hierarchy. Zero 1 tried and was confronted with the same stupidity. More important, the "pausing operations" of ROH/Sinclair says something important. Do I "want" the NWA to rise again - yes (as I've said numerous times on this board). Do I believe that will happen? No. It really is that elementary. I'm done going back-and-forth with you, Steve. Live your gimmick, call people "bitches" and do whatever else you choose in yet another failed effort to achieve prominence. I harken to MKCS's wisdom. The foolishness ends now. Freddie You need to let the past go. What happened with you is over 20 plus years ago. It is funny you mad at me for calling people bitches but yet you keep on bitiching! You are a grumpy old man and I pray to the good lord above you can get this bitterness out of you heart. I don't what your deal with the NWA is but Like I said before it is what it is. MKCS I agree with you dude. Jay Cal Please lock this up. Stunning Steve Thermos, I merely asked you a clear question. And, true-to0form, you go off on a condescending tirade of clap-trap. Nothing "happened to me," Steve. As usual, you try to camouflage your ignorance of the subject-at-hand. But that's who you are. Live your lunacy, Steve. Be one of the "bitches" you label others to be. Exist on message boards domestically and internationally. For that is all you will ever have. It's all so pathetic.
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