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Post by animus on Apr 21, 2018 12:23:34 GMT -8
All In already keep an eye on NWA. Whether they will finally call the NWA or not, just stay tuned. I'd be shocked if the NWA wasn't involved in All In. Cody Rhodes vs Aldis is what I'm expecting.
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Post by bgski on May 21, 2018 21:22:35 GMT -8
I wouldn't see a reason Aldis or the NWA title not to be at All In but that's just me.
As far as the actual match, does it go on last or what? Regardless I'm alittle torn between who I'd like to see win. On one hand I think it would be great to see Cody win the very same title his father won but where would that leave Aldis?
Would we see more of him in ROH and chase after the title? How would this affect the NWA in general? Will they establish another relationship with ROH?
About 10 years ago Adam Pearce and Brent Albright were trading victories for the title at an ROH setting so it could work also and I could be wrong since my memory sucks but I think Pearce was also head booker at the time or a booker in some capacity?
What I do know is I nearly lost it when I saw Pearce bring out the NWA title in ROH since that was the main promotion I was watching at the time.
I was also a big Albright fan back then since his days in OVW so I thrilled when he won it regardless if it was kinda a short reign.
Also what would that do to the overall title scene in ROH? To me it's already a bit thin so I don't see a reason to have it be a part of ROH but it would be cool to see it defended and won at next years WK since that hasn't happened since Kojima won it from Conway at WK8 but even that would be another 4 months away if Cody were to win.
Back to the event itself, being that it's a sold out 10k show, you'd actually have to go back about 25 years to the WCW days with a crowd that comes close to that here in america which I think it was Beach Blast that the title was won by Flair beating Windham for it in a match that's really nothing to write home about, especially compared to just about any of their matches in the late 80's.
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Post by gmellos on May 30, 2018 10:43:32 GMT -8
UK Tour is really cool and he's got some good dates waiting for him upon his return home to the United States I imagine. I see him returning to CZW in some capacity, HOH is somewhere he competes somewhat regularly so I could see him defending there, CWFH of course, the former NWA Smoky Mountain will be involved as well. Also, I've heard some rumblings that Magnus is coming to Sydney, Australia this year to compete for a Sydney promotion. If Aldis does come to Australia are you going to try and book him?
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Post by Jay Cal on May 31, 2018 6:38:43 GMT -8
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Post by flannagan1992 on Jun 21, 2018 10:27:32 GMT -8
Anyone got any idea when PJ Black gets his title shot?
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Post by Jay Cal on Jun 22, 2018 14:19:36 GMT -8
I kind of hope its Ken Anderson...
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Post by legacy on Jun 22, 2018 21:31:58 GMT -8
Read an article today about our champ where he basically said the only reason he is dealing with the NWA is because thus far, the WWW have blown him off about him joining. Which in my book, and again this is my opinion, tells me that we have a guy who would rather be traveling with his girlfriend Vickie James then be our champ, but out of necessity, he is doing it.
Nick Aldis NWA World Heavyweight Champion by proxy...a fine shot to the twig and berries isn't it
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Post by cwfhmarquez on Jun 23, 2018 19:43:54 GMT -8
Read an article today about our champ where he basically said the only reason he is dealing with the NWA is because thus far, the WWW have blown him off about him joining. Which in my book, and again this is my opinion, tells me that we have a guy who would rather be traveling with his girlfriend Vickie James then be our champ, but out of necessity, he is doing it. Nick Aldis NWA World Heavyweight Champion by proxy...a fine shot to the twig and berries isn't it Your statement couldn't be more wrong. I've got to know him pretty good. Also, MICKIE James is his Wife.
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Post by legacy on Jun 23, 2018 22:39:51 GMT -8
Read an article today about our champ where he basically said the only reason he is dealing with the NWA is because thus far, the WWW have blown him off about him joining. Which in my book, and again this is my opinion, tells me that we have a guy who would rather be traveling with his girlfriend Vickie James then be our champ, but out of necessity, he is doing it. Nick Aldis NWA World Heavyweight Champion by proxy...a fine shot to the twig and berries isn't it Your statement couldn't be more wrong. I've got to know him pretty good. Also, MICKIE James is his Wife. Okay so you read the article? Or I am wrong? Because unless you read this article, how can I be wrong. Would just like to clear that up. I'm sure he's a great guy and since he worked your event with a small ring I'm sure your best of friends, but the article spoke for itself.
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Post by legacy on Jun 23, 2018 22:45:42 GMT -8
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Post by Fred Richards on Jun 24, 2018 3:17:36 GMT -8
There is great truth and accuracy in what Legacy writes. The article-in-mention clearly states that Aldis was attracted based upon Corgan's representations made via a telephone conversation. Aldis's character, ability, etc., is not at-issue. I'm confident he is a fine young man.
What remains "at-issue" is Corgan's commitment and vision for the brand we all bear affection towards. Little has happened. There is no continuity. Shaping a brand around one worker is a hobby - - not a commitment. Kind of like the "marks" of yesteryear (I could name a few - - but I'll be kind on a Sunday morning) who paid the promoter so they could "rassle" on the card against the champion and then gave all their pals free tickets to watch the absurd spectacle.
Billy Corgan has deep pockets. It is a time "honored" tradition that many ghouls masquerading as promoters have no qualms of conscience picking those pockets. That said, Corgan has no proven record as a professional wrestling promoter. I mean there is nothing of substance. Just a "vision." A commitment to a fanfare-laden "Spring" that came and went minus the fanfare.
Anybody with even a modicum of office-experience in pro wrestling knows that Corgan should have been up and running by now. The two Davids (Lagana and Marquez) are well-versed in the business. I am sure they have plotted courses and strategies. And, if the promotion of professional wrestling is, in fact (not fiction), their destiny - - I would think they are doing all that is possible to slap Corgan into reality and get on with it.
For the umpteenth time - - I want the NWA to succeed. Bend it, shape it, do anything the hell you want - - just get it back to a recognizable entity or put it out of its misery and into a museum without additional disgrace.
Who the devil can blame Aldis or anybody else looking to make a living if they search out greener pastures? Workers age fast given the physical beating their bodies endure and the emotional burdens of extended travel. They have a limited amount of time to earn their livelihood and, hopefully, tuck something a way for a planned retirement or a forced one should they be severely injured.
It is hard to defend Corgan as it relates to the NWA. Hell, I'm sure Billy is an okay-guy - - but that doesn't make him a pro wrestling promoter. Were Corgan just another indie promoter running three or four times per annum using journeymen (and women) workers that would be one thing. But he and his "staff" claim to have hit the ground running and proclaimed they were ready to make wrestling aficionados sit up and take notice. In this regard, nothing could be further from the truth.
There is a plethora of talent out there not under contract to Vince or anybody else. I raise, again, the name of Tim Storm. Middle aged though he might be, Tim has all the attributes. Under the right tutelage, he can lead the resurrection of the NWA. How? Read on and think . . .
History lesson - - during the days of the territories, the standard modus operandi was for a heel to work approximately one-quarter of the year in each territory destroying most of the non-champion face-talent. Next, came the run-ins, beat downs, ethnic chastisement (Bruno Sammartino was called a "spaghetti bender", etc.) all culminating in the championship match that was usually run to anti-climax three or more times before the blow-off in the highest $$$ venue; nowadays that would happen via a much-ballyhooed PPV. Would that tactic get over in today's internet/smark saturated marketplace? No one will know unless it is tried. And Corgan has the bucks to give it a shot.
There are several promotions that stand out. CZW, CWFH, House of Hardcore, Maryland Championship and more. Some of these have hosted NWA-branded matches. However, the founders/owners of these companies worked long and hard to establish their respective genres and grow loyal patronage. It is delusional to think they would doff their identity to become strictly NWA until and unless Corgan shows something tangible in the way of monetary funding and aggressive/logical strategies that go beyond a blurb on the internet and you-tube. An occasional match here-and-there on another company's card is not a brand. It is a fly-by-night that cannot be taken seriously anymore than an occasional tease by a musician with an unenviable track record in the pro wrestling arena. Seems like a mere sideline to Billy Corgan. Sort of like Jay Leno's car collection.
One last stroll down memory lane. Under Howard Brody, Bob Trobich, et al,deciated NWA shows were run across the USA and some overseas venues. Were some of those shows pathetic? Hell yes. And some were pretty damned good. At least some brand identity was visible.
Spring of 2018 is over. It is the ending of the first week of Summer 2018.
And the silence surrounding the NWA remains deafening.
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Post by cwfhmarquez on Jun 24, 2018 7:27:18 GMT -8
First of all, I never called you a liar. I said your statement is incorrect and it is. Yes, I have read it. Comprehension is a hell of a thing. Rant and rave? Hardly. He explained his status with the WWE and that he doesn't feel there is a current opportunity. He's tracing his steps and getting to know Lighting One. But its cool. You don't care for him and that's cool. Enjoy all the cake.
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Post by legacy on Jun 24, 2018 11:53:45 GMT -8
First of all, I never called you a liar. I said your statement is incorrect and it is. Yes, I have read it. Comprehension is a hell of a thing. Rant and rave? Hardly. He explained his status with the WWE and that he doesn't feel there is a current opportunity. He's tracing his steps and getting to know Lighting One. But its cool. You don't care for him and that's cool. Enjoy all the cake. Funny that those words never came from my mouth. Nick Aldis has all the talent in the world. He is not being booked correctly which is no fault of his own. When his biggest match to date won't even be put on by the NWA then you have to call a spade a spade. I hope he gets away from this Tim Storm story and finds traction skmewhere else with someone else. I just think it sounds like NWA was his fall back option, and that sucks to hear from the face of the organization wince the governing body of people making the decisions, im assuming that includes you, can't revive the other belts.
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Post by dkm on Jun 25, 2018 8:51:07 GMT -8
Don't like it? I don't care We don't need heel promos. For everyone, express your opinion and be respectful and don't beat dead horses.
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Post by Jay Cal on Jun 25, 2018 9:17:26 GMT -8
First of all, I never called you a liar. I said your statement is incorrect and it is. Yes, I have read it. Comprehension is a hell of a thing. Rant and rave? Hardly. He explained his status with the WWE and that he doesn't feel there is a current opportunity. He's tracing his steps and getting to know Lighting One. But its cool. You don't care for him and that's cool. Enjoy all the cake. Funny that those words never came from my mouth. Nick Aldis has all the talent in the world. He is not being booked correctly which is no fault of his own. When his biggest match to date won't even be put on by the NWA then you have to call a spade a spade. I hope he gets away from this Tim Storm story and finds traction skmewhere else with someone else. I just think it sounds like NWA was his fall back option, and that sucks to hear from the face of the organization wince the governing body of people making the decisions, im assuming that includes you, can't revive the other belts. What exactly are we talking about here. The NWA Worlds Champion has fought on 3, soon 4 continents. When was the last time a NWA Worlds Champion has done this? He's featured on television (CWFH), he's been heavily featured on House of Hardcore (available via twitch) he's been on PPVs (ROH) and he's apart of the biggest non-WWE wrestling show in the United States since ever. He is the first NWA Worlds Heavyweight Champion to defend in China. I mean, what more are we asking for? Aldis in the first 7 months reign as Champion is on par with Rob Conway and Adam Pearce. You cannot deny what he's done.
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