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Post by dody on Dec 12, 2019 12:41:02 GMT -8
Once upon a time, there was a time when a World Title Match only contested in a 2 out of 3 falls rules. The rules that still the norm until the early 80s. The rules were so important up to the point when Buddy Rogers lost the NWA World Title to Lou Thesz in a 1 fall match, the Northeast Territory broke from NWA and create their own group that latter it will be known as WWE.
Fast forward now. The upcoming NWA Into the Fire PPV will have a main event with Nick Aldis vs James Storm for NWA World Title in a 2 out of 3 falls match. But this is not the first time the modern incarnation of NWA sanction the world title match with this old school rules. The first NWA PPV under Billy Corgan, NWA 70th also present a 2 out of 3 falls main event between Nick Aldis vs Cody.
And thus, so far NWA has held 4 PPV since Billy Corgan took over the NWA, where 2 out of 4 of those PPV presents a 2 out of 3 falls match NWA World Title main event.
Does it means the classic stipulation becomes relevant again in current NWA? Will the NWA bring it again more and more for their next PPV in the future?
Do you want to see the classic 2 out of 3 falls becomes a norm again in the NWA? Or do you prefer the NWA to accept a modern fast paced reality were 1 fall are more a norm today?
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Post by Jay Cal on Dec 12, 2019 13:17:32 GMT -8
I don't really care for 2/3 falls matches. I get the historical precedence, but it faded away for a reason.
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Post by dkm on Dec 12, 2019 14:06:20 GMT -8
I love 2/3 falls matches makes the match seem important. Kind of like in MMA when title matches are 5 rounds instead of just 3. In UFC all title matches and non title main events are 5 rounds.
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Post by dkm on Dec 12, 2019 14:07:22 GMT -8
The rules were so important up to the point when Buddy Rogers lost the NWA World Title to Lou Thesz in a 1 fall match, the Northeast Territory broke from NWA and create their own group that latter it will be known as WWE That was Kayfabe. The WWWF rarely used 2/3 fall matches. |
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Post by oldschoolcorino on Dec 12, 2019 14:51:54 GMT -8
I like 2/3 as a special attraction except you already know the first 2 will be split and the 3rd will be the deciding fall. They never go only 2 falls. Aldis and Cody was fantastic as each fall was wrested as a different style of match. Also means to become the champ you must beat the champ, twice.
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Post by ZEKE on Dec 12, 2019 17:35:57 GMT -8
I like 2/3 as a special attraction except you already know the first 2 will be split and the 3rd will be the deciding fall. They never go only 2 falls. Aldis and Cody was fantastic as each fall was wrested as a different style of match. Also means to become the champ you must beat the champ, twice. That's exactly why they were unimportant to me - it was rare that someone won 2 falls straight. You always knew if Wrestler A won match 1, Wrestler B would win match 2. and then the rubber match #3 would be up but that's the same as a 1 fall match at that point... |
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Post by shawn on Dec 12, 2019 18:30:13 GMT -8
I take 2 out of 3 falls over a best of seven series where the title can change hand in literally every match.
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Post by dkm on Dec 13, 2019 8:48:34 GMT -8
I like 2/3 as a special attraction except you already know the first 2 will be split and the 3rd will be the deciding fall. They never go only 2 falls. Aldis and Cody was fantastic as each fall was wrested as a different style of match. Also means to become the champ you must beat the champ, twice. That's exactly why they were unimportant to me - it was rare that someone won 2 falls straight. You always knew if Wrestler A won match 1, Wrestler B would win match 2. and then the rubber match #3 would be up but that's the same as a 1 fall match at that point... That's not uncommon in wrestling: Knowing what is going to happen. The WWWF and other promotions did lots of trilogy feuds. Except and person could win the first two and still lose the "fued" by losing the final (Flair/Steamboat in 89) but most of the it was the same as a 3 fall match. |
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Post by WWLTD on Dec 14, 2019 0:24:38 GMT -8
When and where I grew up two outta three falls for the NWA title was the rule, not the exception. My favorite NWA title match ever saw no winner. Flair vs.Brody, Feb 11, 1983 in St.Louis. I was front row as they went to the one hour time limit in front of over twenty thousand fans going nuts. The police made the arena turn the house lights down in an attempt to calm the crowd because there was so many fights in the stands. Flair took the first fall, Brody the second, with no third fall recorded before the time limit expired. The card was filmed for Japanese television and is available at least in part on YouTube.
The match between Kerry VonErich and Greg Valentine for the Missouri title on the same card is great as well.
Kerry was always on his best behavior in STL, and Valentine was a great heel leading the way.
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Post by ZEKE on Dec 14, 2019 8:20:44 GMT -8
Also let’s remember why they had 2 out of 3 falls... to show that the champ COULD be beat, and it might happen right here in the last fall again...
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Post by dkm on Dec 14, 2019 10:35:15 GMT -8
Also let’s remember why they had 2 out of 3 falls... to show that the champ COULD be beat, and it might happen right here in the last fall again... Very important to remember this part. |
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Post by The Laughing Man on Jan 6, 2020 16:11:37 GMT -8
2 out of 3 is great for storylines where there has been a series of matches that each person is one upping the other. Or when you have constant interference that is causing one or the other to lose. But not for all championship matches. WWE was doing that recently on Raw before breaks and it got rather annoying
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Post by nastyjack on Jan 28, 2020 11:03:49 GMT -8
I expect 2/3 will be the formula for the big title matches going forward. I'd like to see a return to 1hr Broadways, but I don't know if modern fans could stay interested that long.
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