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Post by cwfhmarquez on Apr 5, 2016 21:13:54 GMT -8
Not that it'll mean much, but the majority of what 'Ol Pole posts is very accurate and I back him. If he were running a promotion I think he'd be successful. I see a lot more annoying things coming from others than him. Also, I like peppermints.
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Post by MKCS on Apr 6, 2016 0:38:55 GMT -8
I appreciate the compliment although I don't think I'd be a great promoter. I understand maximising income streams such as selling foods, drinks, autographs and photos rather than just a ticket and also feel I have an idea who is marketable to a casual fan due to a background in entertainment (Although I could be WAY off) but I don't understand which workers would work well together and the inner mechanics of the professional wrestling industry which would lead to unentertaining matches and my downfall.
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Post by nwasmokymtn on Apr 6, 2016 1:47:35 GMT -8
I appreciate the compliment although I don't think I'd be a great promoter. I understand maximising income streams such as selling foods, drinks, autographs and photos rather than just a ticket and also feel I have an idea who is marketable to a casual fan due to a background in entertainment (Although I could be WAY off) but I don't understand which workers would work well together and the inner mechanics of the professional wrestling industry which would lead to unentertaining matches and my downfall. Most promoters in the business don't even understand who works well together.
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Post by MKCS on Apr 6, 2016 2:40:07 GMT -8
Yeah but if I were to promote a show I'd want the characters to be entertaining and the matches to be of good quality. I'd want to cater to the families but I'd also want something for the 30 year old wrestling fan who loves great in ring performers like AJ Styles, Daniel Bryan etc etc.
Without an understanding of what makes a great pure wrestling match I'd struggle to cater to that audience and it'd probably be 14 guys going out and just doing a bunch of moves with no story and I'd kill the town very quickly. It happened to a local indy who runs shows in this town, at one stage they were drawing 300-400 fans with local talent that was high end and they thought they'd won the town over. Started coming back with cheaper and cheaper talent (Poorly trained trainees from their school) and the audience dwindled to the point that they draw about 100-150 now. Only talent worth watching that they do book is Robbie Eagles (Who toured Zero-1 one time) and Shazza McKenzie who midcards for SHIMMER.
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Post by fairfax on Apr 12, 2016 2:10:16 GMT -8
You're a Mark for yourself now!!!! Haha I just went to that link to the old board and the entire thread was you preaching about how names draw, names draw, names draw. The gentleman at the top of this very page, ya know the one who just worked you because YOU'RE A MARK, mentions that it's not such a simple process and that he'd recently booked the biggest name in NWA history that's still with us who had just come off of a Mania main event with HBK and that can only be the 16 times World's Heavyweight Champion The Nature Boy Ric Flair and did some fairly major promoting and 18 tickets were sold to meet Space Mountain. Yet what was PJ's response? More whining, crying and BITCHING about DM not really knowing his shit from shinola and that you were right and DM was wrong. Can you not see why that makes you an asshole? You SERIOUSLY just said that IHWE could draw another 200 paid with F**KING MANTAUR!?!?!? And to hell with myself, JADEN, dkm, gmellos, shaun, fanatic, veritas, dody, beltfanchris, texnotrox, portcitywhiteboy, jaycal, cwfhmarquez and truly Tony Brooklyn and Fred Rubenstein IF THEY SHOULD DISAGREE. That's the problem. You throw a temper tantrum anytime anyone doesn't agree with you! That's not debate. That's a child who missed their nap and is obviously too tired to be involved with this discussion of adults. I believe you also have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much free time. There have been weeks that I not only don't post but don't even come to the board. Take a break bro. I respect Jay and dkm, in spite of not quite getting their attempts at humor. I thought it could very well be an April fool's joke but I also thought it was too vague. Hell you should have said you were served and had an appearance in front of Artie the Judge! Haha or you just got me! I was the sucker who bought it! See StoolDump, I'd forgotten that one so thanx for the link to remind me, that was me being a man and owning up to being wrong. They owned me! Dkm I believe I understand what you're asking of us and I take no issue with it. I'll agree that the NWA I sought out was very different. I go back to the crockett days of course but I became interested in the Howard Brody/Dennis Coralluzo/Southern Fried Savoldi days....oh /Fred Richards days ;-) I'm a big fan of what DM was doing with NWAPro and the showcase and such. This is a different national wrestling alliance for certain but there are bright spots and it shouldn't be so hard to see them sometimes. I don't have a problem with that even though I watch the walking dead and that officially makes me more knowledgeable on being an admin!!!
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Post by NWA Fanatic on Apr 12, 2016 7:15:35 GMT -8
You're a Mark for yourself now!!!! Haha I just went to that link to the old board and the entire thread was you preaching about how names draw, names draw, names draw. The gentleman at the top of this very page, ya know the one who just worked you because YOU'RE A MARK, mentions that it's not such a simple process and that he'd recently booked the biggest name in NWA history that's still with us who had just come off of a Mania main event with HBK and that can only be the 16 times World's Heavyweight Champion The Nature Boy Ric Flair and did some fairly major promoting and 18 tickets were sold to meet Space Mountain. Yet what was PJ's response? More whining, crying and BITCHING about DM not really knowing his shit from shinola and that you were right and DM was wrong. Can you not see why that makes you an asshole? You SERIOUSLY just said that IHWE could draw another 200 paid with F**KING MANTAUR!?!?!? And to hell with myself, JADEN, dkm, gmellos, shaun, fanatic, veritas, dody, beltfanchris, texnotrox, portcitywhiteboy, jaycal, cwfhmarquez and truly Tony Brooklyn and Fred Rubenstein IF THEY SHOULD DISAGREE. That's the problem. You throw a temper tantrum anytime anyone doesn't agree with you! That's not debate. That's a child who missed their nap and is obviously too tired to be involved with this discussion of adults. I believe you also have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much free time. There have been weeks that I not only don't post but don't even come to the board. Take a break bro. I respect Jay and dkm, in spite of not quite getting their attempts at humor. I thought it could very well be an April fool's joke but I also thought it was too vague. Hell you should have said you were served and had an appearance in front of Artie the Judge! Haha or you just got me! I was the sucker who bought it! See StoolDump, I'd forgotten that one so thanx for the link to remind me, that was me being a man and owning up to being wrong. They owned me! Dkm I believe I understand what you're asking of us and I take no issue with it. I'll agree that the NWA I sought out was very different. I go back to the crockett days of course but I became interested in the Howard Brody/Dennis Coralluzo/Southern Fried Savoldi days....oh /Fred Richards days ;-) I'm a big fan of what DM was doing with NWAPro and the showcase and such. This is a different national wrestling alliance for certain but there are bright spots and it shouldn't be so hard to see them sometimes. I don't have a problem with that even though I watch the walking dead and that officially makes me more knowledgeable on being an admin!!! He's always been a mark for himself, as you can see yes he has some high points on Tharpe, but just as you said when someone disagrees with him on a post he has to always be right. Just take a look at all the posts here plus on the old board.
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Post by gmellos on Apr 12, 2016 7:44:34 GMT -8
You're a Mark for yourself now!!!! Haha I just went to that link to the old board and the entire thread was you preaching about how names draw, names draw, names draw. The gentleman at the top of this very page, ya know the one who just worked you because YOU'RE A MARK, mentions that it's not such a simple process and that he'd recently booked the biggest name in NWA history that's still with us who had just come off of a Mania main event with HBK and that can only be the 16 times World's Heavyweight Champion The Nature Boy Ric Flair and did some fairly major promoting and 18 tickets were sold to meet Space Mountain. Yet what was PJ's response? More whining, crying and BITCHING about DM not really knowing his shit from shinola and that you were right and DM was wrong. Can you not see why that makes you an asshole? You SERIOUSLY just said that IHWE could draw another 200 paid with F**KING MANTAUR!?!?!? And to hell with myself, JADEN, dkm, gmellos, shaun, fanatic, veritas, dody, beltfanchris, texnotrox, portcitywhiteboy, jaycal, cwfhmarquez and truly Tony Brooklyn and Fred Rubenstein IF THEY SHOULD DISAGREE. That's the problem. You throw a temper tantrum anytime anyone doesn't agree with you! That's not debate. That's a child who missed their nap and is obviously too tired to be involved with this discussion of adults. I believe you also have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much free time. There have been weeks that I not only don't post but don't even come to the board. Take a break bro. I respect Jay and dkm, in spite of not quite getting their attempts at humor. I thought it could very well be an April fool's joke but I also thought it was too vague. Hell you should have said you were served and had an appearance in front of Artie the Judge! Haha or you just got me! I was the sucker who bought it! See StoolDump, I'd forgotten that one so thanx for the link to remind me, that was me being a man and owning up to being wrong. They owned me! Dkm I believe I understand what you're asking of us and I take no issue with it. I'll agree that the NWA I sought out was very different. I go back to the crockett days of course but I became interested in the Howard Brody/Dennis Coralluzo/Southern Fried Savoldi days....oh /Fred Richards days ;-) I'm a big fan of what DM was doing with NWAPro and the showcase and such. This is a different national wrestling alliance for certain but there are bright spots and it shouldn't be so hard to see them sometimes. I don't have a problem with that even though I watch the walking dead and that officially makes me more knowledgeable on being an admin!!! DAMN! Can we get a Hell Yeah!
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Post by MKCS on Apr 12, 2016 14:49:07 GMT -8
You're a Mark for yourself now!!!! Haha I just went to that link to the old board and the entire thread was you preaching about how names draw, names draw, names draw. The gentleman at the top of this very page, ya know the one who just worked you because YOU'RE A MARK, mentions that it's not such a simple process and that he'd recently booked the biggest name in NWA history that's still with us who had just come off of a Mania main event with HBK and that can only be the 16 times World's Heavyweight Champion The Nature Boy Ric Flair and did some fairly major promoting and 18 tickets were sold to meet Space Mountain. Yet what was PJ's response? More whining, crying and BITCHING about DM not really knowing his shit from shinola and that you were right and DM was wrong. Can you not see why that makes you an asshole? You SERIOUSLY just said that IHWE could draw another 200 paid with F**KING MANTAUR!?!?!? And to hell with myself, JADEN, dkm, gmellos, shaun, fanatic, veritas, dody, beltfanchris, texnotrox, portcitywhiteboy, jaycal, cwfhmarquez and truly Tony Brooklyn and Fred Rubenstein IF THEY SHOULD DISAGREE. That's the problem. You throw a temper tantrum anytime anyone doesn't agree with you! That's not debate. That's a child who missed their nap and is obviously too tired to be involved with this discussion of adults. I believe you also have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much free time. There have been weeks that I not only don't post but don't even come to the board. Take a break bro. Settle down, you're blowing a gasket and embarrassing yourself. My argument from THREE years ago was simply that names draw in some markets (Such as certain parts of Australia) and don't in other areas. I've seen CIMA draw 500 in Sydney and I've seen Raven draw 50 two hours down the highway. I'm not under the illusion that hiring a "name" is going to have 500 people clamoring for tickets I simply stated that in some circumstances they work. No argument, no disrespect and definitely no name calling, threats or implications about personal lives or personal relationships. Mantaur was a joke and I already told you that, I thought of the most forgettable performer that Cornette managed and name dropped him for everyone to have a chuckle. I was pretty much making fun of myself with the stereotype of "Oh, PJ loves ANY name" for a laugh and you actually fell for it hook, line and sinker not once (Where I told you it was a joke) but twice where I'm having to tell you again. Just to get it out there so you may finally understand, I don't think Mantaur should be booked for IHWE and I definitely don't think he should be doing anything with Cornette. If he was booked he'd struggle to bring in a couple paying customers let alone a couple hundred. As for me spending too much time here, the board isn't busy enough for me to spend too much time here, that's just the reality of the situation. On a good day you'll have 4 threads with new posts ranging from 1-3 new posts but most of the time it's 1-2 threads with a new post or two and sometimes I just have nothing to say and don't respond. I generally am on the board for a little bit of a morning and I leave the board up in the background of my computer and check back another couple times throughout the day when I take a break from what I'm doing. I'm in a relationship, I study, I pay bills, I see family, friends etc and pretty much manage to juggle adulthood whilst also being able to post on this board. In closing, just like I said to the same four of you before, you're all middle aged men who have held a multi year vendetta. That's not even an exaggeration, there is documented proof that you guys have been lashing out at me for AT LEAST three years. It's really really sad and I'll never understand why you're all so passionate about "getting to me". You're a Mark for yourself now!!!! Haha I just went to that link to the old board and the entire thread was you preaching about how names draw, names draw, names draw. The gentleman at the top of this very page, ya know the one who just worked you because YOU'RE A MARK, mentions that it's not such a simple process and that he'd recently booked the biggest name in NWA history that's still with us who had just come off of a Mania main event with HBK and that can only be the 16 times World's Heavyweight Champion The Nature Boy Ric Flair and did some fairly major promoting and 18 tickets were sold to meet Space Mountain. Yet what was PJ's response? More whining, crying and BITCHING about DM not really knowing his shit from shinola and that you were right and DM was wrong. Can you not see why that makes you an asshole? You SERIOUSLY just said that IHWE could draw another 200 paid with F**KING MANTAUR!?!?!? And to hell with myself, JADEN, dkm, gmellos, shaun, fanatic, veritas, dody, beltfanchris, texnotrox, portcitywhiteboy, jaycal, cwfhmarquez and truly Tony Brooklyn and Fred Rubenstein IF THEY SHOULD DISAGREE. That's the problem. You throw a temper tantrum anytime anyone doesn't agree with you! That's not debate. That's a child who missed their nap and is obviously too tired to be involved with this discussion of adults. I believe you also have WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much free time. There have been weeks that I not only don't post but don't even come to the board. Take a break bro. I respect Jay and dkm, in spite of not quite getting their attempts at humor. I thought it could very well be an April fool's joke but I also thought it was too vague. Hell you should have said you were served and had an appearance in front of Artie the Judge! Haha or you just got me! I was the sucker who bought it! See StoolDump, I'd forgotten that one so thanx for the link to remind me, that was me being a man and owning up to being wrong. They owned me! Dkm I believe I understand what you're asking of us and I take no issue with it. I'll agree that the NWA I sought out was very different. I go back to the crockett days of course but I became interested in the Howard Brody/Dennis Coralluzo/Southern Fried Savoldi days....oh /Fred Richards days ;-) I'm a big fan of what DM was doing with NWAPro and the showcase and such. This is a different national wrestling alliance for certain but there are bright spots and it shouldn't be so hard to see them sometimes. I don't have a problem with that even though I watch the walking dead and that officially makes me more knowledgeable on being an admin!!! He's always been a mark for himself, as you can see yes he has some high points on Tharpe, but just as you said when someone disagrees with him on a post he has to always be right. Just take a look at all the posts here plus on the old board. I'll cop to a lot of things. Want to say my opinion is out there? Fine. Want to say you disagree? Fine. Feel Kahagas is a world calibre athlete and that I'm too hard on him? Fine. Feel I'm too passionate/stubborn with my opinions? Also fine. I'd love to know just how in the hell I'm a mark for myself though. First, the general definition of someone being a mark for themselves is putting themselves and their achievements over. When have I EVER done that? Secondly, (And I don't like talking about this stuff because it makes me look like a prick but in this circumstance it proves my point) up until 2014 I was working as a film actor and promotional model, did I EVER come here promoting my stuff? No. Have I ever attempted to even go in depth about what I was doing for a living? No. All the times you guys have got personal and said stuff like "I bet you're an ugly nerd" I could have ripped out a film grab and a selfie of me with a sign saying "Polejump" proving you all wrong but I never did. Why? Because I don't really feel the need to prove myself to you guys but I'm also quite a modest guy and don't feel the need to put myself over to a bunch of guys on the internet and try to impress you all. I'm not a mark for myself but you guys are all quite clearly marks for me. Every post you guys make is about me or directed at me.
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Post by fairfax on Apr 14, 2016 2:59:36 GMT -8
Hahahahahahaha Listen Catfish PJ, you're a MARK because you got worked and didn't bat a blue steel smolder! You just bought it and kept on talking about how genius you are. And come on George Clooney and admit that the Mantaur thing wasn't a joke until you got called out on it! And I'm obsessed or the G-Man is yet I said WEEKS go by that I don't post or even visit the page to have a look. Literally weeks and you just said you visit at least TEN 10 TEN times in a SINGLE DAY!?!?!?! Must be quite a bit of down time on the set hunh? Haha WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW THAT IS GREAT!!! Should we all be asking for your autograph?
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Post by Jay Cal on Apr 14, 2016 6:22:25 GMT -8
I post my picture because I'm handsome as fuck.
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Post by NWA Fanatic on Apr 14, 2016 7:19:49 GMT -8
I post my picture because I'm handsome as fuck. Jay are you marking out t yourself now? lol just kidding bud
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Post by gmellos on Apr 14, 2016 7:57:29 GMT -8
I post my picture because I'm handsome as fuck. You are one sexy Bitch Jay!
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Post by dkm on Apr 14, 2016 8:20:59 GMT -8
Ok, this has taken an unexpected turn.
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Post by MKCS on Apr 14, 2016 8:56:50 GMT -8
Hahahahahahaha Listen Catfish PJ, you're a MARK because you got worked and didn't bat a blue steel smolder! You just bought it and kept on talking about how genius you are. And come on George Clooney and admit that the Mantaur thing wasn't a joke until you got called out on it! And I'm obsessed or the G-Man is yet I said WEEKS go by that I don't post or even visit the page to have a look. Literally weeks and you just said you visit at least TEN 10 TEN times in a SINGLE DAY!?!?!?! Must be quite a bit of down time on the set hunh? Haha WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW THAT IS GREAT!!! Should we all be asking for your autograph? To be honest with you I don't even know if Mantaur is still actively performing and I don't really care about the guy that much. I've always stood by guys that I've said are good or worthwhile so I wouldn't backflip simply because you called me out. Guys like you have called me out for liking Rob Conway before as well and I've never backflipped on that. How did you come to the conclusion that I'm here ten times a day? I said I visit when I wake up of a morning (I check E-Mails, Facebook and a couple other sites every morning) and check back a couple times throughout the day because the tab is up on my computer. Most of the time that visit consists of me refreshing the page to see if a new post has been made or whatever so if thirty seconds counts as a visit then yeah, I'm here 3 maybe 4 times a day. Down time on set? I don't work in film anymore, I decided to go back to school in February 2015 and studied hard to become a fully qualified journalist throughout last year which lead to a job at a local radio station as a news presenter, news producer and news writer. I'm now about three months away from acquiring my diploma and moving onto a job as a radio host rather than just a news guy which is what I wanted all along and I'm really excited about. Should you be asking for my autograph? No. I'm not going to pretend I'm famous because I'm not. The height of my television roles were "bit roles" which are 1-3 lines whilst Feature Film wise I landed a couple leading roles and a handful of supporting roles in independent movies. Regardless, it is something I'm proud of, it was something I wanted to pursue and I did it. I went further then what I ever expected (I never thought I'd get above working as an extra) and I'll always have the photographs and stories for my kids or grandkids if they want to see them/hear them.
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Post by MKCS on May 9, 2016 14:36:29 GMT -8
All I can do is refer you back to the old board, when Polejump was "banned", and when the discussion of Tharpe, Ronquillo & Rubenstein as things deteriorated was discouraged. My prediction is that the same thing is going to happen on this board now Nail on the head. This has happened a little over four weeks later. Nobody is talking about much of anything, hell, I saw an advertisement for an NWA show on Facebook which was featuring the World Heavyweight and I believe the North American and World Tag Titles. It wasn't even mentioned here. Problem is people are unhappy with Tharpe and people don't care about his champions but we can't point this out because it's seen as bashing Tharpe.
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