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Post by gmellos on Apr 22, 2016 8:02:05 GMT -8
I think Heyman is decent with financials considering he made ECW work without nowhere near the help TNA had. Imagine if Heyman had Panda Energy backing ECW? I think Trobich and Tharpe would have done a much better job with the NWA if they had Panda Energy type backing. Trobich and Dave M for sure but Tharpe would have created a tv show centered around him pretending to be Vince. It would have looked like a scene of Back to the Future 2 at Biff's casino horrid to watch! Now IF CWFH had Panda money that would be something!
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Post by gmellos on Apr 22, 2016 8:03:45 GMT -8
Sorry but Booking the Nasty boys and Val Venus is NOT what is best for business. Hogan only care about Hogan and his buddies PJ. Cornette of Paul Hayman should have been hired instead. Hyman yes, JC no. He's way in the past. Its great to celebrate tradition and stuff, but again 1997 is gone and so is 1974. Well isn't TNA based in the South so wouldn't old school JCP type of booking work in that area? You know far more than I do so I value your opinion here!
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Post by Jay Cal on Apr 22, 2016 8:25:00 GMT -8
Hyman yes, JC no. He's way in the past. Its great to celebrate tradition and stuff, but again 1997 is gone and so is 1974. Well isn't TNA based in the South so wouldn't old school JCP type of booking work in that area? You know far more than I do so I value your opinion here! Really it feels like most of TNA's success has been over seas in India, the United Kingdom, and Australia. If I was TNA, I would try to focus on these markets, which are under served by the WWE. If Drew Galloway cuts a promo, it doesn't have to be translated for it to make sense in the those markets. There are many ways to "save" TNA, but not sure current ownership is interested in doing those things.
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Post by NWA Fanatic on Apr 22, 2016 11:57:50 GMT -8
Well isn't TNA based in the South so wouldn't old school JCP type of booking work in that area? You know far more than I do so I value your opinion here! Really it feels like most of TNA's success has been over seas in India, the United Kingdom, and Australia. If I was TNA, I would try to focus on these markets, which are under served by the WWE. If Drew Galloway cuts a promo, it doesn't have to be translated for it to make sense in the those markets. There are many ways to "save" TNA, but not sure current ownership is interested in doing those things. They should move operations over to the United Kingdom, cause they haven't really done much here in the States. It could be a successful company over there, plus they have a lot of international markets lined up. Just recently announed FX overseas. They've been around 14 years now, and they have lost a lot! Either sell the company to someone who has the funds and smarts to move it to where it needs to be, or move out of the country and focus on the international scene.
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Post by MKCS on Apr 22, 2016 18:32:16 GMT -8
Cornette signed with ROH and almost ruined them with his old school booking ideas. Heyman wanted 100% control of the company including the financials. RoH is a totally different animal than TNA is. TNA is a WCW clone and is based in the South so his style would work there. Also you don't think Hogan and Bishoff weren't given complete control? Not only did TNA not give them 100% control they didn't even have 100% creative control. Russo was the head writer followed by Prichard. Eric and Hulk simply were members of creative. Jay, TNA wasn't really big here, they arranged a tour in 2010 featuring guys Australia hadn't seen for awhile (Angle, AJ, Nash, Hardy) and it got cancelled due to lack of tickets. Lots of TNA guys came to Australia with indies and unless it was an ex WWE guy they wouldn't really draw. Australia is very much a WWE country although with the multiculturalism here Japanese style wrestling sometimes draws here, a few years back Shinsuke Nakamura did phenomenonal business for a promotion in Adelaide (smaller major city). Two shows I believe they did 400-500 each night.
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Post by gmellos on Apr 22, 2016 18:54:36 GMT -8
RoH is a totally different animal than TNA is. TNA is a WCW clone and is based in the South so his style would work there. Also you don't think Hogan and Bishoff weren't given complete control? Not only did TNA not give them 100% control they didn't even have 100% creative control. Russo was the head writer followed by Prichard. Eric and Hulk simply were members of creative. you don't think Hogan got his way in the beginning?
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Post by MKCS on Apr 23, 2016 2:39:21 GMT -8
Not only did TNA not give them 100% control they didn't even have 100% creative control. Russo was the head writer followed by Prichard. Eric and Hulk simply were members of creative. you don't think Hogan got his way in the beginning? I think the Nasty Boys were Hogan hirings with Orlando Jordan, Venis etc being Bischoff guys, I agree there. Them forcing hogan on us was Russo though I think
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Post by greenmistguy90 on Apr 26, 2016 7:41:37 GMT -8
I'm not saying it's on tnas mind or the nwa on the wholes mind but I think it would be cool to see a lot of the curnet tna talent mixing it up in the varous nwa promotions . Heck I like it when it happens allready . Like I recently watched an nwa circle city match on YouTube with abyss that was pretty sweet
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Post by cwfhmarquez on Apr 26, 2016 15:09:21 GMT -8
I'm not saying it's on tnas mind or the nwa on the wholes mind but I think it would be cool to see a lot of the curnet tna talent mixing it up in the varous nwa promotions . Heck I like it when it happens allready . Like I recently watched an nwa circle city match on YouTube with abyss that was pretty sweet The former NWA Throwback Championship Wrestling (and tons more across the country) already do this.
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Post by MrWood on Apr 28, 2016 10:31:24 GMT -8
TNA talent can work the indies so you see most of them on promotions across the world. Wouldn't and couldn't be an exclusive thing to help the NWA really.
Lots of the promotions do it as Dave said already. I've done it a few times myself.
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Post by MKCS on Apr 28, 2016 11:54:12 GMT -8
EC3 did a tour of Australia at the very end of last year. I remember chuckling at it because EC3 came in and just beat every local guy. He either refused to lose or TNA refused to let him lose.
To me it seemed kind of pointless for local promoters to feed the countries top guys to EC3. Also, Robbie E is somehow in Australia pretty much every year as well. No idea how he keeps getting flown over here.
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Post by gmellos on Apr 28, 2016 13:46:18 GMT -8
Also, Robbie E is somehow in Australia pretty much every year as well. No idea how he keeps getting flown over here. He is a "name" remember.
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Post by MKCS on Apr 28, 2016 16:14:04 GMT -8
I'm not saying he's not a name but with a 500 dollar match fee, 500 dollar flight (1/3 split which each promoter does do for him) and a 150 dollar hotel room you kind of have to question whether or not there is someone better out there who would work for around the 1150 dollar mark.
Who am I to disagree though? They keep bringing him back so he must have some value.
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