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Post by gmellos on Mar 28, 2016 11:54:05 GMT -8
Didn't say it in a dickish way at all. Pretty much what used to happen is everyone here would kiss DW's ass big time and I'd chime in with my opinion and say that whilst he was a strong in-ring performer (Which he is) I felt that his promos lacked as did his look. Instead of taking my stuff on board or point blank ignoring it he'd go on the attack telling me to come to some rec hall in the United States and he'd show me what the business was all about and calling me gay simply for pointing out that his physique was lacking. That's not the kind of thing you want your fans seeing on a fan page from a potential World Champion. Saying someone is too skinny to be world champ and the suck on the mic after insulting that guy's coworker will piss off someone off.
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Post by MKCS on Mar 28, 2016 12:09:35 GMT -8
Well don't post on a fan board then.
Do you see WWE guys debating the fans on WWE forums? Do you think Randy Orton is inviting fans to get in the ring?
Wayne was an idiot when he posted here, maybe he's changed now.
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Post by tonybrooklyn on Mar 28, 2016 12:16:43 GMT -8
I like DW more than Kahagas but my biggest concern with Wayne was that he doesn't look like a World Heavyweight Champion. He's pretty thin (When I brought this up I was called gay by him and everyone else despite having a girlfriend, lol), his promo work is lacking (There was an excuse for that from DW as well) and pretty much just looks like a normal dude you'd see in the street. An "every man" gimmick could work in the WWE where everyone is a monster but in a company like the NWA where everyone looks like a guy off the street you want your guy to stand out, DW didn't offer that and neither did Kahagas to be honest. Also, DW's love of coming here and attacking people (Myself and anyone else who put down Bruce Tharpe) made him look very very amateurish. I remember him once threatening to beat me up on the old board for my opinion of his work, that's not a guy you want representing your brand. I'm glad he never won the big one in the NWA. I like your contributions here, so don't take this wrong. I have booked DW and Kahagas at my promotion a hand full of times. They may not be the biggest, etc....but both are two of the toughest men that have ever performed in my ring. If this phony fighting were real, they are two guys that would be near or at the top. If someone needed an attitude adjustment...or just an old fashioned ass kicking....DW and Kahagas are more than capable. Both bring a very strong style and provide that sense of "reality" that I like to see in a match.
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Post by dkm on Mar 28, 2016 12:52:44 GMT -8
Be careful judging size. Kevin Douglas/Frazier is 5'6" about 170 lbs and I know promoters that brought him in to kick the ass of troublesome big men.
Kevin was brutal, So is Kahagas, and for sure so is DW.
BTW how big was Bryan Danielson?
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Post by gmellos on Mar 28, 2016 13:08:22 GMT -8
Do you see WWE guys debating the fans on WWE forums? Do you think Randy Orton is inviting fans to get in the ring? Orton is also known for almost kicking the shit out of fans like you.
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Post by gmellos on Mar 28, 2016 13:09:41 GMT -8
Be careful judging size. Kevin Douglas/Frazier is 5'6" about 170 lbs and I know promoters that brought him in to kick the ass of troublesome big men. Kevin was brutal, So is Kahagas, and for sure so is DW. BTW how big was Bryan Danielson? Dynamite Kid all 5'8" of him used to TERRORIZED the WWF locker roon in the mid to late 80s! I still wouldn't mess with him even though he is in a wheelchair and suffered a stroke recently. Bryan Danielson I believe is a little over 5'9".
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Post by Jay Cal on Mar 28, 2016 14:47:15 GMT -8
Well don't post on a fan board then. Do you see WWE guys debating the fans on WWE forums? Do you think Randy Orton is inviting fans to get in the ring? Wayne was an idiot when he posted here, maybe he's changed now. Actually I see Kevin Owens, Chris Jericho, the Miz, often engaging fans who critique them on Twitter. Same difference.
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Post by NWA Fanatic on Mar 28, 2016 18:44:59 GMT -8
Well don't post on a fan board then. Do you see WWE guys debating the fans on WWE forums? Do you think Randy Orton is inviting fans to get in the ring? Wayne was an idiot when he posted here, maybe he's changed now. Actually I see Kevin Owens, Chris Jericho, the Miz, often engaging fans who critique them on Twitter. Same difference. It's too bad, at times PJ has some good posts and then there are some times he lives in a bubble and doesn't see the world for what it is.
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Post by MKCS on Mar 29, 2016 0:04:34 GMT -8
Bryan Danielson isn't a great comparison. First of all he's in better shape than most normal people (And your average wrestlers) and is only small by WWE standards. He's also one the greatest technical wrestlers to ever grace the world of wrestling and despite all of that it took him years of touring the world to even become a draw.
As for Jay I think Twitter is a little different. On Twitter you have randoms attacking these performers directly. I never attacked DW directly I simply gave an opinion (Nicely mind you) and he took the time to debate me every time. The fact a middle aged professional wrestler had to resort to calling a 21-22 year old Australian guy "gay" pretty much says it all. I'm 24 now and don't recall the last time I had to go for that.
Also, I love you guys defending small guys. I personally am only 5'7 and even I recognise that little performers don't get as far. Guys like Bryan and Punk are two who made it but look at all the small guys who didn't, regardless it's all irrelevant because I never talked about DW's height I talked about his dad physique and how he didn't look like a fighter. Bryan Danielson was in decent shape and Dynamite Kid was jacked to the gills and was on steroids. Poor examples.
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Post by gmellos on Mar 29, 2016 7:40:54 GMT -8
Bryan Danielson isn't a great comparison. First of all he's in better shape than most normal people (And your average wrestlers) and is only small by WWE standards. He's also one the greatest technical wrestlers to ever grace the world of wrestling and despite all of that it took him years of touring the world to even become a draw. As for Jay I think Twitter is a little different. On Twitter you have randoms attacking these performers directly. I never attacked DW directly I simply gave an opinion (Nicely mind you) and he took the time to debate me every time. The fact a middle aged professional wrestler had to resort to calling a 21-22 year old Australian guy "gay" pretty much says it all. I'm 24 now and don't recall the last time I had to go for that. Also, I love you guys defending small guys. I personally am only 5'7 and even I recognise that little performers don't get as far. Guys like Bryan and Punk are two who made it but look at all the small guys who didn't, regardless it's all irrelevant because I never talked about DW's height I talked about his dad physique and how he didn't look like a fighter. Bryan Danielson was in decent shape and Dynamite Kid was jacked to the gills and was on steroids. Poor examples. Kahagas looks bigger than Danielson. Look I personally HATED The Sheik as World Champ because I thought his gimmick was not worthy of a World title reign, I got shit for it before he no showed the Ohio Fair show. Also you did attack DW, you said he sucked on the mic and was too thin to be a World Heavyweight Champion even though the Heavyweight class is 200lbs or more and DW is above 200lbs. MAybe in Austrialia you can critize people and it is not considered attacking but in the US it can be and usually is considered attacking someone.
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Post by MKCS on Mar 29, 2016 13:23:18 GMT -8
I attacked professionally not personally. My country has nothing to do with anything.
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Post by gmellos on Mar 29, 2016 14:55:03 GMT -8
I attacked professionally not personally. My country has nothing to do with anything. You do know that with most wrestlers personal and professional are one in the same.
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Post by MKCS on Mar 30, 2016 0:24:26 GMT -8
No, it's not.
A personal attack would be saying "I don't understand how Joe Blow's mother could love him because he's ugly and has a shit physique"
A professional attack would be saying "I don't understand why you guys like DW so much. I agree, he's a good in-ring performer but doesn't offer much on the stick or in the physique department"
Lets be real though, most of you on here who are DW fans were only so huge on him because he posted here. I don't see anyone talking about DW regularly anymore in the "Guys should come back" or "Guys who should be champion" threads.
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Post by gmellos on Mar 30, 2016 7:22:55 GMT -8
No, it's not. A personal attack would be saying "I don't understand how Joe Blow's mother could love him because he's ugly and has a shit physique" A professional attack would be saying "I don't understand why you guys like DW so much. I agree, he's a good in-ring performer but doesn't offer much on the stick or in the physique department" Lets be real though, most of you on here who are DW fans were only so huge on him because he posted here. I don't see anyone talking about DW regularly anymore in the "Guys should come back" or "Guys who should be champion" threads. Dude I am tired of spinning my wheels with you. You're basically an ass who trashes people "professionally" who then has the balls to bitch about those people's retaliation towards you. Example "Damian Wayne is too thin and sucks on the mic to be NWA World" "Why is DW trashing me waaaaaaaaaa" Ummm didn't it occur to you that Damian was going to win the World Title but got shafted out of it, later you said he doesn't deserve to be World Champ. That would not get under your skin when some guy spent MONTHS trashing the guy who beat you for that title (who also happens to be a friend of yours). Then he trashes you? ? If that was me I would want to fly over to your town, knock on your door and punch you in the mouth! Maybe that is my Greek temper but still, words can piss people off.
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Post by nwasmokymtn on Mar 30, 2016 9:15:30 GMT -8
DW isn't a small guy at all. He's in great shape.
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