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Post by dkm on Aug 24, 2016 12:46:57 GMT -8
Probably when everything is said and done.
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Post by MrWood on Aug 24, 2016 13:53:58 GMT -8
Whilst their isn't a UWN World champion right now when the time is right the trigger will certainly be pulled. As many have seen the last 6 months it's been more of making sure the right components are in place. It's an exciting time for all involved. I will be flying to LA next month.
I can't agree with the 4 year comment by DKM for the current situation and decisions made.
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Post by gmellos on Aug 24, 2016 14:28:09 GMT -8
Well given that their is not traveling title in the UWN and unlike the NWA there are no fees to be part of the UWN also there is no current "traveling" UWN title.
I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say.
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Post by gmellos on Aug 24, 2016 14:29:59 GMT -8
Whilst their isn't a UWN World champion right now when the time is right the trigger will certainly be pulled. As many have seen the last 6 months it's been more of making sure the right components are in place. It's an exciting time for all involved. I will be flying to LA next month. I can't agree with the 4 year comment by DKM for the current situation and decisions made. Watching how the NWA is currently being run by Bruce Tharpe is like watching a monkey trying to screw a football, comical and sad at the same time. |
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Post by tonybrooklyn on Aug 24, 2016 18:06:46 GMT -8
Richard Bruce Tharpe We all have friends. Not everyone has friends. I know a guy with no friends at all. I'm not sure he realizes it, but thats the case. |
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Post by NWA Fanatic on Aug 24, 2016 18:50:19 GMT -8
Starrcade did come back under the name "Starcade" and it was pretty much a regional indy show. The NWA could have done a lot better with that. They are nothing but names. I could call my return event Wrestlemania if I wanted....but what would it mean? Copyright/Trademark lawsuit from Stamford. |
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Post by MKCS on Aug 25, 2016 3:13:53 GMT -8
You are 100% right. The NWA World Title has been established for some 60 odd years. The United World Champion hasn't even been crowned yet. We're not sure who their champion is going to be or what they'll be capable of. But we know the Premier Champion in CWFH is Peter Avalon. And he's defended the Heritage Title in Alaska and most recently in New Jersey. I'd also bet he defends in Arizona, with their first set of TV Taping coming soon. but the NWA as it currently exists is barely 4 years old and it will take time to rebuild and there will be set backs and other things like every one else in the business. Of course, but how many? You look at the current regime and what have they really done by themselves? NJPW deal was cool but the NWA didn't really get a significant rub from it. NWA-SAW is a good promotion to have on board and the recruitment of NWA Rocky Mountain was something I personally enjoyed. That averages out to less than one good thing a year. As it stands the most recognisable BOD champion is Rob Conway who is a decent hand but lets face facts, the dude is 40 and the highlight of his career was his poor mans legend killer gimmick on WWE TV 11 years ago and that's coming from a fan of the dude. On top you've got Jax Dane, below him you have a handful of solid regional guys but definitely not worldwide or even national draws, nobody from the old NWA is involved in the new one and there is very little to actually get excited about (Although I AM interested in what way the new Japanese company will go). This isn't even mentioning the Bruce Tharpe stuff which I've left out purposely. Compare it to United Wrestling Network. According to wikipedia they have a super indy (CZW) and a handful of really decent independents. I've seen great things from CWFH but they've also got Metro Pro, NECW, Steel Domain Wrestling who are all promotions I've at least heard of and they're all good enough for some form of TV. UWN only launched in 2013 and they've done a whole lot more than the NWA without the brand value (no matter how small it is) |
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Post by NWA Fanatic on Aug 25, 2016 7:13:42 GMT -8
but the NWA as it currently exists is barely 4 years old and it will take time to rebuild and there will be set backs and other things like every one else in the business. Of course, but how many? You look at the current regime and what have they really done by themselves? NJPW deal was cool but the NWA didn't really get a significant rub from it. NWA-SAW is a good promotion to have on board and the recruitment of NWA Rocky Mountain was something I personally enjoyed. That averages out to less than one good thing a year. As it stands the most recognisable BOD champion is Rob Conway who is a decent hand but lets face facts, the dude is 40 and the highlight of his career was his poor mans legend killer gimmick on WWE TV 11 years ago and that's coming from a fan of the dude. On top you've got Jax Dane, below him you have a handful of solid regional guys but definitely not worldwide or even national draws, nobody from the old NWA is involved in the new one and there is very little to actually get excited about (Although I AM interested in what way the new Japanese company will go). This isn't even mentioning the Bruce Tharpe stuff which I've left out purposely. Compare it to United Wrestling Network. According to wikipedia they have a super indy (CZW) and a handful of really decent independents. I've seen great things from CWFH but they've also got Metro Pro, NECW, Steel Domain Wrestling who are all promotions I've at least heard of and they're all good enough for some form of TV. UWN only launched in 2013 and they've done a whole lot more than the NWA without the brand value (no matter how small it is) Talk the Talk, Walk the Walk!!!! So far we haven't seen any walking from the NWA in the last 4 years. Just more talking than anything. UWN is a different brand and they know how to deliver, David and his crew have been working really hard to deliver a type of brand that means PRO WRESTLING! |
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Post by gmellos on Aug 25, 2016 7:52:52 GMT -8
but the NWA as it currently exists is barely 4 years old and it will take time to rebuild and there will be set backs and other things like every one else in the business. Of course, but how many? You look at the current regime and what have they really done by themselves? NJPW deal was cool but the NWA didn't really get a significant rub from it. NWA-SAW is a good promotion to have on board and the recruitment of NWA Rocky Mountain was something I personally enjoyed. That averages out to less than one good thing a year. As it stands the most recognisable BOD champion is Rob Conway who is a decent hand but lets face facts, the dude is 40 and the highlight of his career was his poor mans legend killer gimmick on WWE TV 11 years ago and that's coming from a fan of the dude. On top you've got Jax Dane, below him you have a handful of solid regional guys but definitely not worldwide or even national draws, nobody from the old NWA is involved in the new one and there is very little to actually get excited about (Although I AM interested in what way the new Japanese company will go). This isn't even mentioning the Bruce Tharpe stuff which I've left out purposely. Compare it to United Wrestling Network. According to wikipedia they have a super indy (CZW) and a handful of really decent independents. I've seen great things from CWFH but they've also got Metro Pro, NECW, Steel Domain Wrestling who are all promotions I've at least heard of and they're all good enough for some form of TV. UWN only launched in 2013 and they've done a whole lot more than the NWA without the brand value (no matter how small it is) sonofabitch what is happening to me. I am starting to eye to eye with you! LOL Good points PJ |
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Post by NWA Fanatic on Aug 25, 2016 8:17:45 GMT -8
Of course, but how many? You look at the current regime and what have they really done by themselves? NJPW deal was cool but the NWA didn't really get a significant rub from it. NWA-SAW is a good promotion to have on board and the recruitment of NWA Rocky Mountain was something I personally enjoyed. That averages out to less than one good thing a year. As it stands the most recognisable BOD champion is Rob Conway who is a decent hand but lets face facts, the dude is 40 and the highlight of his career was his poor mans legend killer gimmick on WWE TV 11 years ago and that's coming from a fan of the dude. On top you've got Jax Dane, below him you have a handful of solid regional guys but definitely not worldwide or even national draws, nobody from the old NWA is involved in the new one and there is very little to actually get excited about (Although I AM interested in what way the new Japanese company will go). This isn't even mentioning the Bruce Tharpe stuff which I've left out purposely. Compare it to United Wrestling Network. According to wikipedia they have a super indy (CZW) and a handful of really decent independents. I've seen great things from CWFH but they've also got Metro Pro, NECW, Steel Domain Wrestling who are all promotions I've at least heard of and they're all good enough for some form of TV. UWN only launched in 2013 and they've done a whole lot more than the NWA without the brand value (no matter how small it is) sonofabitch what is happening to me. I am starting to eye to eye with you! LOL Good points PJ It happens time to time, we'll agree and then sometimes agree to disagree. But the only company in the NWA brass i've seen move forward in the last 4 years is Smoky Mountain. |
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Post by tonybrooklyn on Aug 25, 2016 18:22:17 GMT -8
They are nothing but names. I could call my return event Wrestlemania if I wanted....but what would it mean? Copyright/Trademark lawsuit from Stamford. Obviously, I was simply making a point about the name. If semi pro players called one of their football games the "Super Bowl", it wouldn't make their sub par product any more important. |
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Post by tonybrooklyn on Aug 25, 2016 18:23:08 GMT -8
Copyright/Trademark lawsuit from Stamford. Obviously, I was simply making a point about the name. If semi pro players called one of their football games the "Super Bowl", it wouldn't make their sub par product any more important. They were doing well prior to the regime change. Tony is responsible for Tony's success, not the brand. |
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Post by NWA Fanatic on Aug 26, 2016 7:42:02 GMT -8
Obviously, I was simply making a point about the name. If semi pro players called one of their football games the "Super Bowl", it wouldn't make their sub par product any more important. They were doing well prior to the regime change. Tony is responsible for Tony's success, not the brand. Never said it was the NWA that helped Smoky Mountain move forward, I only stated the only company I've seen move forward with in the NWA, is Smoky Mountain. |
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Post by nwasmokymtn on Aug 26, 2016 12:04:49 GMT -8
Wasn't doing well before I joined the NWA. Almost went out of business in 2010.
There was a lot of factors in business turning around. The NWA was certainly a factor.
Being the top promotion in the NWA still carries weight.
As I have said before, everybody involved in both regimes has been good to me. I've got nobody to bury.
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Post by NWA Fanatic on Aug 26, 2016 13:17:26 GMT -8
Wasn't doing well before I joined the NWA. Almost went out of business in 2010. There was a lot of factors in business turning around. The NWA was certainly a factor. Being the top promotion in the NWA still carries weight. As I have said before, everybody involved in both regimes has been good to me. I've got nobody to bury. Been a fan of your company for awhile now, (i'm sure no one could tell lol) and you and your crew have been doing tremendous over the years. Keep up the good work Tony! Keep moving and keep driving! |
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